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Because they apperently don't exist by PieLady4 Because they apperently don't exist by PieLady4
Apparently, you cannot be gay and be a christian or a conservative. If you are not liberal, atheist, and/or flamboyant, you are not the "right kind"of gay and are not considered part of LBGT. This is just based on the hate mail I've seen on Ethan Sabo's tumblr. He is a gay republican and half the hate mail he gets is from liberals who actually accuse him of just pretending to be gay. It sickens me, gays are just like any other people, they can have different religions and political beliefs, they are not all the same.
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LittlebitFluffy Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2014
Agreed
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KiWi83773 Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
AMEN
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Nero--Angelo Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
well . . . i'm not an atheist & i'm not flamboyant

i'm alright with gay republicans . . . i'm just not alright with the ones that support candidates that will tread on people's rights
it would be like black people going, "Oh yeah.  They segregate against us, but at least they're in our political party"
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014
I am certainly not saying you have to be atheist or flamboyant, this is what I have heard other people say. It's very wrong to say people need to believe a certain thing or act a certain way to be "acceptable."

I understand where you are coming from, but that example you used could apply to a lot of lgbt people who think they need to join the democrat party even if they are against gun control and abortion but say "Well, at least they're for gay marriage!"

The point is you don't have to agree with every aspect of the party/political ideology you support. Also the president doesn't really have a say in social issues like gay marriage. I know gay people-the one I am representing in this comic in particular- who don't want the federal government to interfere with the idea of marriage and prefer the states handle it.

I appreciate you being polite in spite of disagreeing however! Your comment is really appreciated because expressing your opinion with outright rudeness isn't right. So thank you!
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Nero--Angelo Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
why thank you ^^

i know how difficult this debate is & it's usually the hardcore liberals that tend to be all "you need to be _______, or you're blah blah blah" & i never really got that

unfortunately, both the liberal and conservative sides produce the extremist people that tend to be more insulting towards those that don't vote for their side and tend to tread on the rights of others

honestly, i'm somewhere in the middle.  i agree with both sides
i'm pro choice, anti gun control, pro health care, and pro strong national defense
but the side that will always win me over . . . is the side that goes for less bigotry =u=
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014
I'm not sure what you mean by "the side that goes for less bigotry" but I do agree that there are extremists on both sides. And it's never good : (
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Nero--Angelo Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah, that was generally one of the parts that i probably should have defined better

the best way i can explain it, is that there are two definitions of freedom.  the north has one and so does the south.  the north's freedom, the one generally used by liberals, is freedom to be urself & not get persecuted.  the south's freedom, the one generally used by conservatives, is freedom for them to discriminate against whoever they want

i know it isn't always the case, but it shows up too often =_=
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014
umm...No not at all. The whole point of Conservatism is wanting the government out of your life. Conservatives believe that the government has no right to tell you how to live your life. Conservatives do believe in some regulation however, their stance on the legalization of pot for example, because they are not libertarians who are even further right.

Liberals believe in the government mandating things. It is done in the name of freedom, and some liberals have very good intentions because they believe if their are more laws regulating what you can and can't do it will "protect" people. There are deviations here too, such their stance on abortion.

It's not about discrimination. The ideologies just have different ideas on government regulation and what should be regulated vs what should not.
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Nero--Angelo Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah, my view might be slightly biased, then again i live in the south so those are generally what they fall into when we have conservatives & liberals down here XP

I kinda agree with conservatives at parts.  the gvt does not have the right to tell you how to live, as long as you aren't harming others

then the liberals have me when it comes to some gvt regulation, as long as it doesn't tread on basic freedoms

one thing i actually think i sort of came up with in trying to bridge the gap was for the gun-control debate.  I don't want the gvt telling people they can't have guns because a good number of actual gun owners are responsible enough to care for them properly.  My stance was just toward the regulation of concealable guns, or at the most non-rifles.  then everyone can have their freedom to bear arms and they wouldn't be able to just hide them on their person and would more likely have their gun taken from them if they were to try & take it into a place where guns are prohibited
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014
ahh I understand.

Personally I don't like any gun control because there is already a lot of regulation on guns, I am all for concealed carry because I feel like I have that right to carry a gun for my own defense. I understand if you would just want open carry however, either way I get to defend myself!
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HumanistRarity Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013
It's good to see that some conservatives supports gays. So no, it doesn't disgust me. Sane liberals and sane conservatives FTW.
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013
yay sane people! They are so hard to find sadly.
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HumanistRarity Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013
Irl, yes
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Beastboss Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Gay Marriage should remain the people of each state decision, not the Government
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TheAtticusNew Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
That's the same argument that was made by George Wallace in support of segregation laws. Gay marriage doesn't come down to states' rights; it comes down to civil rights.
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Beastboss Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Should not all sides of the coin voice their own opinion on the matter, isn't the ability to vote whether local, state or federal help promote a stronger Republic and shouldn't the vote be respected if either side wins
If you honestly believe forcing what you think is right without any say from other groups is the solution then sir you are misguided
Gay marriage has become not of civil affairs anymore but a political tool used at a politicians own gain
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.” 
I'm sure you know where that's from 
Personally I was and am not for or against Gay marriage however when people are given the opportunity to vote and it is not respected that is when I have a problem

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PureWeissritter Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013
Just get the government out of the marriage business altogether. Marriage is none of their business anyway. Just go with they're all civil-unions and be done with it. Let the people work out the rest themselves. Now, I as a Christian personally don't approve of gay marriage, and am still annoyed by Christians saying it's okay(Both Old AND New Testaments speak out against it, singling it out as an abomination and worthy of death, as all sins are.) but I can tolerate it as an American, under their right to pursue happiness.(Not attain, but pursue it.) Just don't make churches have to ordain it, as that would be denying their 1st Amendment rights, and I'm cool.
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2013
I agree.
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estrellita098 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012
I have meet some very religious and conservative people, like nuns or priest that don't seen any problem whit gay people and even some of these people agree whit gay marriage ^_^
And some liberals how hate gay people >_<
By the way, I loved the draws of both panels, they look cute and creative :)
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012
thanks so much!!!
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MissMuffinTop Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012   Writer
You can be whatever you want.

I just never understood why people oppose progress.
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Cloudwilk Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012  Student Filmographer
... Well, it's only odd because the republican party in general tends to lean away from allowing homosexual rights... so this is kind of like that black guy who was stating that the confederate flag was just a flag and it was okay for him to support it... I mean it's possible if you view things differantly it just doesn't usually make sense....
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But I wouldn't be one to judge ^^'
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012
except that that is not a stance of the republican party. Marriage is not a civil right. Some gays disagree with gay marriage for reasons of government involvement. Many republicans actually agree with gay marriage. Also, gay marriage is not the only issue in existence. Just because you agree with gay marriage, does not mean you automatically have to be a democrat. What if you believe in small government, low taxes, gun rights, and you are pro life? One issue does not define all your political views.
But of course the main point here is that your sexuality doesn't define you as a person and stereotyping is bad. I am glad you actually understand this even if you think it strange unlike some who are saying my comic here is completely invalid and saying the same things the bullies on many gay conservatives pages
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Cloudwilk Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2012  Student Filmographer
Never knew about the gays disagreeing with gay marriage before, so that's new~
Though, I have seen a ton of republicans (in fact, I'm surrounded by republicans) and I have yet to meet one that doesn't find homosexuality appauling in some way.
No, I understand that just because you like gay marriage doesn't make you a democrat in the least.. I just don't really see it making someone a republican. However, there is much more to the republican party, in fact, it is the small government that defines the party in general and the belief of trickle-down economics etc. etc. It still just seems a little ironic.
But beleifs can be complicated, and I'm chill either way~
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FnrrfYgmSchnish Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012
I don't think anyone says you can't be both gay and Christian. Except some of the extreme Christian groups that do the whole "God hates fags/homosexuality is a sin/etc." thing, anyway. Considering that 70% of the USA is a member of some type of Christian religion, it'd probably be safe to say that MOST gays are Christian.

Gay + conservative is a little more of a weird combination, because conservative politicians now almost all are against gay rights. I'm sure that conservative gay people exist, but considering the way most major conservative politicians are so opposed to all things pro-gay, there's probably not many of them (or at least not many openly gay ones; I know there's been a few politicians with really anti-gay views who later get busted having sex with another man.) Not all conservatives/Republicans/etc. buy into the party's views 100%, so I'm sure there are conservatively-aligned people who aren't 100% opposed to gay rights (I would hope that any gay conservatives out there would be among this list)... but there has been a LOT of anti-gay stuff from that side of the political fence recently, so it's no surprise that a gay person who's also conservative would get some weird looks.

Accusing someone of not even really being gay is just a messed up thing to do, though. Who would *pretend* to be a member of an oppressed minority? Seriously, with all the hate gay people get, why would anyone PRETEND they're gay when they really aren't?
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012
Actually Gay marriage does not equal hatred of gays when I know a few gays themselves who are not for it for various reasons. Conservatives are not anti-gay, that stuff is usually faked by the media. There are other reasons to be a conservative too, gay marriage is not the only issue in existence. What about believing in the importance in small government? Or being pro-life and pro-gun? There is nothing weird about a gay conservative because they are people who can have different opinions. Gay republicans get bashed A LOT, almost always by liberals (gay and straight) who say they are "traitors." Also, what rights are gays denied in the United States? Marriage is not a right, it is a ceremony and some believe that the government shouldn't be involved in ANY marriage. In some countries being homosexual is a DEATH SENTENCE. America is one of the best places for gays actually. Also, most Christians, even ones who believe homosexuality is a sin, keep their mouths shut about it and accept their family members who are gay because judging is also a sin. Many don't even believe it is a sin (I don't, I think they were born that way and there's nothing wrong with it). Believe me, I've seen gay Christians be bashed PLENTY and be called "traitors" far more then I've seen Christians bashing gays. Christians in general get made fun of by the media and just average people depending where you live (aka, anywhere that isn't the bible belt).
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PureWeissritter Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013
Ahp, not that "Judging is a sin" crap. Judge not, LEST YE be judged. Not that you shouldn't judge things value and worth, but you shouldn't hold people to a higher standard than you do yourself. Basically it's "Don't be a self-righteous prick" not "Don't judge."
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013
I always interpreted it as "lest ye be judged" meaning, if you're going to judge someone, look at yourself first. Are you really a perfect person? No, so you have no right to judge anyone, only God is in the position to do that. Also the Bible teaches us not to judge in many other ways. Jesus judged no one, he was friends with a prostitute and low class fishermen. As a Christian, you try your best to be like Jesus. It's a moral thing really
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PureWeissritter Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013

Exactly my point, you have no more inherent value than anyone else. Now, it doesn't mean if you see someone sinning you should just let it slide, as that doesn't help them at all, and probably makes their situation worse. A fellow Christian is to be confronted(Privately at first, as to let him repent of his own accord, before bringing it before the church if he fails to do so.) about his misdeeds, while everyone else... well, preach and evangelize as normal. 

Jesus did eat with sinners, but he also made it clear that he's not going to let them remain sinners. Come as you are, don't expect to stay that way.

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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2013
I'm not saying to should continue to let someone sin, I'm just saying you don't scream that they're going to hell and make them feel like crap because you're a sinner to.
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FnrrfYgmSchnish Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012
If you've seen more gay Christians bashed for being "traitors" than you've seen Christians (mostly extreme evangelical/fundamentalist types) bashing gays, I have no idea where you live or what kind of people you've been hanging around... because pretty much everywhere I've been, extreme Christians being super anti-gay is MUCH more common and most of the "Christian bashing" is not bashing ALL Christians, just the extreme crazy ones who do stuff like bashing gay people.
There are many more Christians (~70% of the country) than there are gay people (maybe 10% or so, not even that much if you're only counting homosexuals and not bisexuals)... and yeah, not all Christians are anti-gay, but there's a good-sized chunk of the population that IS and some of that group are very loud and very involved in politics. So if you haven't seen that much gay-bashing from extreme Christians, I have to wonder if you've even been paying attention... it's pretty common.

I've seriously never even *heard* of a gay Christian being bashed as a "traitor" just for belonging to the most common religion in the country, though, and I'm not talking about just what's shown on the news or anything like that either. I haven't seen or heard about that happening anywhere except in your comments on this picture just now. And Republicans being anti-gay is not "faked by the media." There may be conservatives/Republicans who aren't anti-gay, but the party in general does tend in that direction. Almost all (at least as far as the candidates who actually get into influential positions) are opposed to gay marriage, many are opposed to the idea of gays having "hate crime" protection like other minorities, there are a significant number who ARE the type of Christians who think homosexuality is a sin, and so on.

I could understand the "traitor" comments if it was someone who actually believed the whole "homosexuality is a sin" thing despite being gay themselves, but I would hope most gay Christians don't buy into that crap. If someone was gay AND did believe that their very existence was a "sin" somehow, they'd probably be a very messed-up person (as in depression, other psychological issues, etc...)

"The media" is not a solid entity and does not generally make fun of anyone. "The media," as most people use the term, means news on TV, radio, etc... in most cases they're not really in the business of making fun of people. They just report the news (usually with a bias, of course, but the idea of some huge overarching "liberal media" is mostly a myth; there are a few channels that lean in that direction but it's not as common as people on the Internet would have you believe. And of course, there are also conservatively-leaning media as well... and even some that aren't that biased in either direction!)

Also, making fun of someone is not the same as hating or bashing them. It's one thing to make a joke or spoof someone who did something stupid, it's another thing entirely to actually hate someone or believe they're evil just because of who/what/etc. they are.
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012
You do realize being against hate crime protection is not anti gay either right? It's about making the laws equal. So many times there are trials where a man is in prison longer because he assaulted a minority than if a minority assaulted a white and/or straight person even if it WAS based on that. Again, the party is not anti gay. No I do not agree with everything the party does, I have my own mind. But being against gay marriage is NOT anti gay. And just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Yes I know there are crazy "Christians" who hate gays, but there are people who hate gay Christians and Christians in general. It goes beyond making fun of someone in some cases, like this for example: [link]
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FnrrfYgmSchnish Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012
...how the heck is being against gay marriage NOT anti-gay?? Just because *some* gay people don't want to get married? That makes no sense.

The hate crime thing, I can understand a little better. Not necessarily anti-gay to be against that, so long as the reason is that you want equal treatment for everyone (rather than not wanting gays to get the same protection as other groups already have.)

I know that just because I haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. That's why I said "I HAVEN'T SEEN IT" rather than "IT DOESN'T HAPPEN." Obviously it's happened at least once (to the point of violence), going by the article you linked to.

I'm just saying that there's no way it's anywhere NEAR as common as gay people being hated on by extreme Christians (you don't have to put "Christian" in quotes for them. the "not a true Christian" thing is complete nonsense; a Christian is anyone who belongs to a Christian religion, regardless of what type of person they are. You could say they're not Christlike or they're not doing what Jesus would really want them to or they're not *good* Christians, but to say or imply that they're not Christians just because of what they do or what kind of person they are is just not true.)

Also, completely off topic here, but it would be much easier to read your comments if you format them into paragraphs or something (push Enter between sentences/paragraphs) rather than just one big block of text.
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012
Some gay people "not wanting to get married" is not the reason. Some people just believe in "traditional" marriage for whatever reason and think they should instead have the same thing with a different name which they already have in most states. Others say the government should not enforce such a thing, that it should be up to the states to decide. Others still say that the government shouldn't be involved in ANY marriage, gay or straight. A lot of people are against it for the governmental control, not anti gay reasons. Gays can think these reasons just as much as anyone else. Many churches preform gay ceremonies anyway, it's not like it's illegal.

I'm not saying some "Christians" don't bash gays. Duh, of course they do and they're terrible people. But yes, it happens the other way around too. It one, isn't shown as much, two, isn't thought of as much, and three, there are of course less gays than Straights so no, not as many get bullied cause not as much are in existence, that doesn't mean it doesn't happen just as much, it's only less because there are less of them.

Also I CAN put Christians in quotes. Saying you are a Christian does not make you one. Just like how Terrorists aren't real Muslims. I could say I'm a cow, does that make me one? No. Part of being a Christian is going by what Christ told us to do, it's not just simply believing in God.
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FnrrfYgmSchnish Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012
I think the issue here is that a lot of people have religious marriage and civil marriage mixed up when really they're two different things. Separation of church and state, y'know? Remember that?

Most people get both "types of marriage" at the same time if they're married in a church, but what gay marriage deals with is civil marriage and NOT religious marriage. Even in states where gay marriage is legal, churches who oppose gay marriage don't HAVE to marry gays... because civil marriage (being recognized as "married" by the government and getting the rights and opportunities that come with that status) is what the gay marriage laws deal with, not religious marriage.

Nobody's trying to enforce gay marriage on churches, because that's religious marriage. A church has the right to decide who they marry in that church and who they don't, for any reason, regardless of any law, because the law only relates to civil marriage. If someone went to a Justice of the Peace to get married (purely a civil marriage, no religious element involved) and THEY said no, then there'd be a problem. But a church that doesn't want to marry certain people can do that, no problem.

Example: Mormons. Even in a state where gay marriage is legal, there are no gay Mormon marriages (at least not in the temples) because the LDS church doesn't support gay marriage and wouldn't let it happen. Two gay Mormons can get married--but not in a Mormon temple marriage ceremony, even in states where gay marriage IS legal, because that's religious marriage and the law only affects civil marriage.

"It's not like it's illegal?" But gay marriage IS illegal in states where it hasn't been made legal yet. That's... kind of the whole reason why people are pushing for gay marriage laws to legalize it, because it ISN'T LEGAL YET in states that don't have those laws passed yet. Most states define marriage as only a man and a woman; until another law comes along that changes that to include man/man and woman/woman marriages, gay marriage is not legal in those states.

I never said that you were saying that no Christians ever bashed gays.

Nobody ever said being a Christian was "just believing in God," that's a massive misinterpretation of what I said (I honestly don't even know where you got that from.) Anyone who believes in a Christian religion is a Christian, regardless of your (or anyone else's) opinion of what a "TRUE CHRISTIAN" is. Islamic terrorists *are* Muslim, Christian extremists *are* Christian, and so on. They're messed-up people, they're definitely not good people, they may even be outright EVIL... but that doesn't make them not a member of the religion they believe in. You don't have to be a good person to be a religious person.

"Cow" is not a religion. You're a cow if you were BORN a cow, but nobody is BORN with a religion, you learn it and choose to believe it or not later on in your life. You're comparing two entirely different things. Your religion is determined by your beliefs (which can change at any time, unlike your species which is set in stone from long before birth.) If someone believes in a single god called Allah and that Mohammed was a prophet and that the Qu'ran is a holy text, then they're Muslim. If someone believes that Jesus is the Christ/Messiah/son of God/god incarnate/etc. (...there's a lot of variety in Christianity) and that the Bible is a holy text, they're a Christian. That's all there is to it.
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2012
I never said it was to be enforced on the churches. I'm not even giving my own opinions on gay marriage here, all I am saying is that people have different beliefs and those beliefs do not automatically equal hatred of gays. I know the difference between civil marriage and religious marriage, and again some people think the states should vote on it. Some people want domestic partnerships which are the same thing as marriage and a lot of states already have. The major point here is that if someone doesn't agree with gay marriage for a reason that isn't "Gays should burn in hell" or something then it's okay to believe that. Again, some Gays don't believe in the government being involved in marriage, ie, giving marriage benefits.

We can agree to disagree on what a true Christian is. I'm sorry but my faith is based on a lot more. And the example of cow was meant to say that just because one identifies them self as something doesn't mean they really are. I know you are not born a religion, I'm pretty sure everyone knows that.
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ninjatakes321 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
the only part of gay that I dont believe in is gay marriage, you can be together and enjoy eachother but you shouldn't do.....butt sex >.<

I'm actually bi, but still...
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dweebzilla Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Marriage isn't about sex, and gays can do that even if they're not married. Marriage is a way to show your partner that you're willing to spend the rest of your life with them.

Oh, and straight people can do that too. ;)
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ninjatakes321 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah, cant ya have something else though?;O; I mean, divorse is s cmmon why even?..
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dweebzilla Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Divorce is for people who weren't in love to begin with. Gay marriages can also be called Civil Unions.

Plus, there are a lot of rights that married couples have that unmarried couples don't have.
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ninjatakes321 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Really?.3. Sorry, I havent exactly gotten into the federal level of marriage
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dweebzilla Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Even so, you automatically assumed marriage=sex, and that's just not right. At all.
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ninjatakes321 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Oh no, I believe marriage=religion, not sex. I put sex out there just for the mechanacal gain
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dweebzilla Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Marriage has basically nothing to do with marriage anymore. It's about settling down. I'm a Wiccan and I plan on getting married to my boyfriend when I graduate high school, actually, even though the traditional pagan "marriage" is Handfasting (which came first, by the way).
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Mike-the-cat Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Liberals are ok with ethnic minorities, women, and the LBGT community.....

As long as they are all mindless left wing conformists.
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2012
this ^
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HNBBTF Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2012
You see the Liberal Democratic brain is very narrow minded, self righteous, and so certain of their correctness that the only reason someone could possibly disagree is they're being bought, have some evil greedy intent, or are idiots. They develop these molds of how everyone in a group should be like, Blacks, Hispanics, Politically active Women, Gay and Lesbians and when someone from these groups doesn't fit that mold to their liking they can only see them committing wrongs and injustices in defiance of the collective group instead of simply looking at them as an individual with their own set of opinions and values.

Where I live it seems all the Homosexual in Roads are made by Republicans. The first openly Homosexual District Attorney in the country is from my County and she's a Republican. We're also electing a new Mayor this fall and the Republican is likely to win, he would be our first openly Gay mayor and actually holds the title of our first openly gay man elected to the City Council.
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012
you sir, are my new best friend
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Stubborn-Catfish Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
THANK YOU FOR THIS! I'm not straight (not completely gay either but still lol) and I fully support Romney and many other republicans. I also believe in God. Hateful liberals can deal with it! I've had to deal with some hate from the left for just being myself. Also, I follow Ethan Sabo on tumblr, he's awesome!
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PieLady4 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012
you are very welcome! I'm just sick of people thinking that gays apperntly can't make their own decisions, like they're stupid kids or something and the government needs to be their daddy. :I

and I lovveee Ethan Sabo<3
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